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Perelel Lives: Mary Lawless Lee on Her Rebirth as a Woman and Mother


Welcome to Perelel Lives, a podcast where we learn about the tireless yet vibrantly challenging role the women we admire most live in parallel to their careers and personal pursuits: becoming and being a mom.

We live in a society that glamorizes and celebrates women‘s careers, the companies they’ve built, and the movements they’ve created. But, what we’ve failed to highlight is a facet of their lives that is far more personal—a side that presents perhaps the hardest, but most rewarding job of all—a job with no PTO, no holiday breaks, no sick days, and no salary. Oh, and it also lasts a lifetime: motherhood. Here, we have real conversations about motherhood. (Not another parenting podcast.)

Mary Lawless Lee Happily Grey motherhood

Which brings us to today's conversation...

Today's guest is Mary Lawless Lee. A mom of two with one on the way, you may know her from her brand Happily Grey, as the founder of Nēmah, a clean skincare line for moms, and as the author of her new book, Happily Grey. She joins us to share her birth story and how she processed the birth she wished she had, how she takes care of herself, and the wisdom that she's learned along the way.

We hope you enjoy the conversation.

Next up—Chef Gaby Dalkin on Destigmatizing Miscarriage, Navigating Fertility, and Finding Support Along the WayPlus, listen and subscribe to Perelel Lives on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.